• Stripped down Debian dist

    From Dumas Walker@CRBBSNET to ALL on Sat Aug 17 19:40:00 2019
    Is there still a stripped down distribution, based on debian, which keeps
    the kernel and security packages updated while remaining a version behind,
    or while stripping the bells and whistles?

    A few weeks back I tried upgrading an old Pentium-3 800 machine that I use
    as a server from debian 9 to 10 "Buster." I had to downgrade it back due
    to issues with it grinding the system to a halt, and that is without even installing an x-server. :)

    I was hoping there might still be some debian-based "lighter weight"
    distros out there. The ones I remember from a few years back have ceased
    being maintained.

    Thanks!

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  • From Netsurge@CRBBSNET to Dumas Walker on Sun Aug 18 02:15:42 2019
    Is there still a stripped down distribution, based on debian, which keeps the kernel and security packages updated while remaining a version
    behind, or while stripping the bells and whistles?

    Debian 9's support runs through to June 2022, why not just use that?

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  • From Dumas Walker@CRBBSNET to NETSURGE on Sun Aug 18 09:06:00 2019
    Debian 9's support runs through to June 2022, why not just use that?

    I am, for now. Trying to map an upgrade path beyond that. :)

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  • From Netsurge@CRBBSNET to Dumas Walker on Sun Aug 18 11:25:24 2019
    I am, for now. Trying to map an upgrade path beyond that. :)

    Then maybe you should also map out a path for new hardware while you are it
    it.

    The hardware you want to run this on is quite old and you will have a hard
    time finding a linux distro that is debian based that won't need at least a threaded processor to work decently.

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  • From Dumas Walker@CRBBSNET to NETSURGE on Sun Aug 18 18:50:00 2019
    Then maybe you should also map out a path for new hardware while you are it it.

    The hardware you want to run this on is quite old and you will have a hard time finding a linux distro that is debian based that won't need at least a threaded processor to work decently.

    I am hesitant to get too cutting edge for a system that only serves files
    to other machines. I have considered replacing it with an sbc and a couple
    of external HDs, though. I currently have an Intel Galileo looking for
    work.

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  • From Netsurge@CRBBSNET to All on Sun Aug 18 19:19:13 2019
    On 2019-08-18 22:50:00 +0000, Dumas Walker said:

    I am hesitant to get too cutting edge for a system that only serves files
    to other machines. I have considered replacing it with an sbc and a couple of external HDs, though. I currently have an Intel Galileo looking for
    work.

    I don't think you would need to go too cutting edge, a dual core
    processor would me more than enough. You could pick up a complete used
    sysem for under 100.

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  • From Apam@CRBBSNET to Dumas Walker on Mon Aug 19 19:00:00 2019
    Dumas Walker wrote to NETSURGE <=-

    Then maybe you should also map out a path for new hardware while you are it it.

    The hardware you want to run this on is quite old and you will have a hard time finding a linux distro that is debian based that won't need at least a threaded processor to work decently.

    I am hesitant to get too cutting edge for a system that only serves
    files to other machines. I have considered replacing it with an sbc
    and a couple of external HDs, though. I currently have an Intel
    Galileo looking for work.

    Why are you worried about too cutting edge? Is it power consumption?

    A raspberry pi or intel galileo as you said would run fine, if you want to
    use something with internal harddrives some sort of Intel Atom based computer might be a good go. Those would be lower power too, I imagine much less
    than what you're currently using.

    If you really want to use the Pentium 3, perhaps Linux would better be
    replaced by something like NetBSD.

    Andrew


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  • From Dumas Walker@CRBBSNET to APAM on Mon Aug 19 17:14:00 2019
    Why are you worried about too cutting edge? Is it power consumption?

    Not so much that as the $$$ and thinking that lower-end hardware should be
    fine for a server. I do have a couple of extra motherboards floating
    around which might be a little more current.

    If you really want to use the Pentium 3, perhaps Linux would better be replaced by something like NetBSD.

    I have had a couple of people suggest a BSD system. What is the learning
    curve involved there, if you are familiar with both?

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  • From Dumas Walker@CRBBSNET to NETSURGE on Mon Aug 19 17:15:00 2019
    I don't think you would need to go too cutting edge, a dual core
    processor would me more than enough. You could pick up a complete used
    sysem for under 100.

    I actually have a used dual-core that seems to also be having issues with Debian 10. Minor error messages and the like. It does have X installed, though, so it might run better without it.

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  • From Netsurge@CRBBSNET to Dumas Walker on Mon Aug 19 22:02:42 2019
    I actually have a used dual-core that seems to also be having issues with Debian 10. Minor error messages and the like. It does have X installed, though, so it might run better without it.

    I haven't used any window manager on my linux boxes in over a decade. You
    don't need it.

    You might look into something like slackware. It has a bit more of a learning curve over debian, but you start with a bare bones kernel and build modularly from there.

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  • From Netsurge@CRBBSNET to Dumas Walker on Tue Aug 20 00:38:50 2019
    I have had a couple of people suggest a BSD system. What is the learning curve involved there, if you are familiar with both?

    It is very similar to Linux but different at the same time. It is a no frills based OS that is rock solid and just works. It works really well as a
    dedicated almost "set it and forget it" type of system.

    You can't use dosemu, but you can use dosbox if you want to run older dos
    based doors. The only downside is the inability to have multiple people play
    a dos door game at the same time. In todays day and age, that isn't too much
    of an issue.

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  • From Joacim Melin@CRBBSNET to Dumas Walker on Tue Aug 20 09:31:51 2019
    Why are you worried about too cutting edge? Is it power consumption?

    Not so much that as the $$$ and thinking that lower-end hardware
    should be
    fine for a server. I do have a couple of extra motherboards floating around which might be a little more current.

    If you really want to use the Pentium 3, perhaps Linux would better be >> replaced by something like NetBSD.

    I have had a couple of people suggest a BSD system. What is the
    learning
    curve involved there, if you are familiar with both?

    I started to replace my CentOS based systems with FreeBSD a couple of months ago and basically there are two things that you need to get your head around:

    1. No more systemd. Hooraay! Freebsd uses initd. 2. Most settings goes into /etc/rc.conf. This includes charsets, which software that starts during boot, IP address, etc. It's very simple and yet very powerful and also liberating.



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